В процессе Battle mage weapon

[ApocalypsA]

Hello... What would you recomend for mele battle mage? Sword or Staf... And explain why please

 

[Liker]

@ApocalypsA, as u wish. Sword is a little faster, but staff is longer.

 

[AlB]

And staff can be very deadly with shamanism and «wind fury». One of the highest dmg in game

 

[ApocalypsA]

A personál může být velmi smrtící se šamanismem a „větrnou zuřivostí“. Jeden z nejvyšších dmg ve hře

já wanted to play Undead Summoner as mele with army of undeads and Sid. So i cannot choose shaman

 

[~DARKSIDE~]

já wanted to play Undead Summoner as mele with army of undeads and Sid. So i cannot choose shaman

In this case, take a shield and a magic shield. What will come out of this has already been demonstrated by the comrade @AIB in his videos Видео - Лучший милишник в игре — призыватель нежити

 

[ApocalypsA]

V tomto případě si vezměte štít a magický štít. Co z toho vzejde, už předvedl soudruh @AIB ve svých videích Video - Nejlepší voják na blízko ve hře je vyvolávač nemrtvých

já seen that topic and its insane yeah But i didnt want to copy/paste but create something little different, more dmg focused something like dark knight but more powerful.. So i was thinking..... Will staff have better dps with range/better int/ better dmg? Or will have sword have better dmg bcs of speed? I though i will find someone who already tested this cuz i played only spell casters until now =) By the way... Thnx for answer a lot... This russian version of Gothic starting to be veeeeeeeery popular in my country now

 

[Depression]

já seen that topic and its insane yeah But i didnt want to copy/paste but create something little different, more dmg focused something like dark knight but more powerful.. So i was thinking..... Will staff have better dps with range/better int/ better dmg? Or will have sword have better dmg bcs of speed? I though i will find someone who already tested this cuz i played only spell casters until now =) By the way... Thnx for answer a lot... This russian version of Gothic starting to be veeeeeeeery popular in my country now

The case with summoner is that your summons are so extremly powerfull that your own additional damage from a sword will be like 10% of what they do. If you want to feel like you are the most powerful unit on the battlefield and you are creating most of the damage by your melee hits then i would suggest going for something else. Ofc im talking about nightmare difficulty ballance - if you are playing on gothic difficulty then you will not even have time to hit anything - it will already be dead.

You could freeze enemies as watermage and then hit them while they are stunned. Also your dmg spells are lowering their magic resistance, which makes your weapon deal more dmg

Necromancer using only demonology could be nice if you are not playing nightmare. This option (playing necro without dmg spells) is probably the weakest one, which may be nice if you are looking for bigger challenge

dark sorcerer without dmg spells with sword is op on all difficulties

Guru is very strong option and gives you melee dmg buff

Now about weapon choice: swords are main choice for a mage that wants to deal damage from hand because they require much less mana in lategame, which is main reason to choose them instead of staffs on nightmare difficulty. Another reason to choose sword is better early avaiability - after finishing jarkendar you can already visit desert, kill a single boss and recive magic sword that is on a 3 chapter level, while you will need to wait much longer for a staff that is on similar power level.
If you are playing on gothic difficulty then it literally doesnt matter - you will have enough learning points to get enough mana for best staff so in that case staff will be better just because it have much better range and animation than sword. You can even train strength if you are playing on 10lp / lvl and wear heavy armors

 

[ApocalypsA]

Případ s vyvolávačem je, že vaše přivolání jsou tak extrémně mocná, že vaše vlastní dodatečné poškození mečem bude přibližně 10 % toho, co způsobí. Pokud chcete mít pocit, že jste nejmocnější jednotkou na bojišti a většinu poškození vytváříte svými zásahy na blízko, pak bych navrhoval jít do něčeho jiného. Ofc mluvím o vyrovnání obtížnosti noční můry - pokud hrajete na gotickou obtížnost, pak ani nestihnete nic trefit - už bude mrtvá.

Ók i play nightmare+ difficulty... And you are totaly wrong... Im 27 level 1st chapter, my Sid is 18 level and doing 180 dmg, my gina around 220 on 20 lvl.. And me as Summoner with 2h staf i doing around 420dmg with 68% chance with staff from entering necromancer guild.

Nepřátel můžete zmrazit jako vodní mág a pak je zasáhnout, když jsou omráčeni. Také vaše vaše zbraň kouzla díky snížení jejich magickou odolnost, čemuž zbraň rozdává více dmg

You can freeze enemies but on bosses you are totaly death :/

Nekromant používající pouze démonologii by mohl být fajn, pokud nehrajete noční můru. Tato možnost (hraní necro bez dmg kouzel) je pravděpodobně nejslabší, což je fajn, pokud hledáte větší potřebu

Yeah but demons are bad tanks and a little bit cluncky I loved old necromancer before changes... Also summoner have mele a lot of higher dmg even if its reduced and scales damn great on higher level.

Dark Sorcerer bez dmg kouzel s mečem je op na všechny obtížnosti

That was my first playthrough as dark magician with only spells.. But cant imagine play it like battle mage, how you would solo bosses if u cant mind control anything..?

Guru je velmi silná volba a dává vám buff dmg na blízko

Never played guru yet but ill give it a shot totaly !

Nyní o volbě zbraní: meče jsou hlavní volbou pro mága, který chce udělovat zranění z ruky, protože v lategame vyžadují mnohem méně many, což je hlavní důvod, proč si je vybrat místo hole na obtížnost noční můry. Dalším důvodem, proč si vybrat meč, je lepší časná dostupnost – po dokončení jarkendaru již můžete navštívit poušť, zabít jednoho bosse a získat magický meč, který je na úrovni 3 kapitol, zatímco na hůl, která je na podobné úrovni, budete muset čekat mnohem déle. výkonová úroveň
Pokud jste na gothic obtížnost, pak je to doslova jedno – budete mít dostatek bodů za učení, abyste získali dostatek mnoha pro nejlepší hůl, takže v tom případě bude lepší, protože má mnohem lepší dosah a animaci než meč. Můžete dokonce trénovat sílu, pokud hrajete na 10lp / lvl a nosíte těžké brnění

On the end i went with 2h Staff, tested some old saves on speed, dmg, etc and ill try it with staff now... This playthrough is rly easy even on early levels when ull get your first staff from Galahad then you killing boar, snapers etc on like 2 - 3 hits solo